A Conversation with Rolando Reyes, Sr.
The creator of Puros Indios and Cuba Aliados cigars speaks to Cigar Aficionado.
From the Print Edition:
"24", Jan/Feb 2006
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Cuba Aliados was a hot brand, but a lawsuit between Reyes and his distributor, Cigars by Santa Clara N.A. kept it off the market for most of the cigar boom. A recent settlement returned the brand to Reyes.
The 82-year-old Reyes recently sat down with senior editor David Savona for a comprehensive discussion about cigars, tobacco and restoring Cuba Aliados to its former stature. His grandson, Alex Diez, translated.
David Savona: Let's discuss how you got started in this business. How old were you when you came to the United States?
Rolando Reyes Sr.: I was 51. I came 30 years ago.
Q: Did you open a cigar factory right away?
A: In Union City [New Jersey]. It's still there. It's still open. We have a retail store. That's a part of me I don't want to part with. I was working there, but it wasn't enough production for the demand, so I came to Miami. And in Miami there wasn't enough either, so I went to Honduras.
Q: Tell me about Cuba Aliados—didn't the name originate from an old bus company in Cuba?
A: It's the same name—the bus line used to be called Aliados, and I named the company Aliados. It means "allied."
Q: When did you first start making cigars?
A: In Cuba. I was nine years old.
Q: Were you working at home?
A: I worked in a small factory, where I wasn't only being taught how to roll cigars, but how to handle everything you had to do. They taught me everything, so I could learn how to start rolling.
Q: Where in Cuba was this?
A: Zulueta. From there I went to a factory in Remedios called Aguilar and then I went to Havana to work in José Piedra. And from there, I went to H. Upmann. The boss at H. Upmann was a friend.
Q: Were you known as a very good roller in those days?
Q: What type of cigars did you roll at H. Upmann?
A: I started with parejos, then I went to [José] Gener, where I started learning how to roll the piramides and figurados.
Q: When you say "figurado," do you mean cigars that look like the Cuba Aliados Diademas you make now?
A: Yes. I'm the one who brought from Cuba the figurado.
Q: Let's talk about your figurados. I've always been intrigued by them, because they looked very much unlike any other cigar on the market. You make those shaped cigars without molds, right?
Q: Is that the way they were done in Cuba?
A: It's done completely by hand.
Q: But wouldn't it be easier with a mold?
A: It is easier, but for me, it was very easy to work without the molds. For new people, the mold is very important.
Q: Is it very difficult to teach people to make that type of a cigar?
A: It's not easy.
Q: What was the reaction in the United States when you first started selling your diademas?
A: People would say, "I've never seen anything like that." They didn't know which end to put in their mouth. (Laughs.)
Q: I remember you once told me that you don't use tobacco from Honduras, even though you work in Honduras. Do you still not use it?
A: The government gives me free entry; I can use leaf from anywhere in the world.
Q: Don't you use something from Honduras?
A: No, nothing from Honduras. Never.
Q: Why don't you like Honduran tobacco?
A: I just don't like it. I never worked with it. I feel that it doesn't have what I'm looking for. There's really not that much tobacco grown in Honduras.
Q: I know you're very fond of Ecuador Sumatra wrapper. What is it about that tobacco that's so special?
A: The taste is sweet, it burns well and it has a great aroma. And it has beautiful color.
Q: And how do you think the Nicaraguan corojo, that new wrapper leaf you're using, compares to Ecuador Sumatra?
A: I like it very much. I like it better than Sumatra. Each one has its own beauty.
Q: Is Sumatra thinner than corojo?
Q: Is the corojo stronger?
A: A bit. It depends on how you treat it. The strength comes from how you treat it.
Q: You mentioned treating tobacco. Can you talk about that?
A: I process it according to the quality of the cigars. Nothing chemical, it's just natural.
Q: Don't you dip your tobacco in something? A bethune?
A: I touch the tobacco up with a secret recipe.
Q: Do you still run your factory the way you used to? You are known for sleeping during the day, and looking over the work at night when everyone has gone home.
A: (Laughs.) I start at 10 at night, and I'm done at 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning. I am quality control. There is only one person who does quality control [in the factory], and that's me. I like to work at night, because there's no one to bother me, and I can concentrate better in detail on what's wrong with a cigar. When I'm working on something during the day, they'll call me for something else.
Q: You like being in the factory alone? No one bothering you?
A: You have to concentrate. I like to inspect every cigar.
Q: You personally check every cigar that's made in your factory?
A: One by one.
Q: But how many do you make a day?
A: We do 30,000 to 40,000 a day.
Q: You check every one?
A: I pick up a bunch of 50, and I can see if it's short an ounce or over an ounce. When I start during the night, I start with the smaller cigars and work up to the bigger cigars—that way I go from the lighter cigars to the heavier cigars.
Q: Do you have to drink a lot of coffee during the night?
A: (Laughs.) I just have a lot of energy.
Q: I heard a story—I don't know if it's true—but I heard that when you were inspecting the work one night, you found something you didn't like and you turned the roller's chair upside down for him to see the next day. Is that true?
A: If it's a small problem, I write them a little note. If it's a big problem, I will dock them for the work, and I will turn over the table and leave a note. The note says "ojo," which in Spanish means "eye." I'm watching you. I'll put up with one problem, or two mistakes. The third? You're out.
Q: Are you a tough boss?
A: I have to be. Sometimes they might come in a little drunk or with problems. I don't want to hear about that. You have to be straight.
Q: Especially if they know you're not there until the evening.
A: No, I'm there in the morning, too. I work during the night. When I wake up in the morning, I walk up and down the factory, picking cigars from here, from there, and then I know what to look for at night.
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